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PSA and bone health/healing

Broke my ankle three weeks ago. Over the past 12+ years I've broken several toes and three fingers. The toes (earliest of the broken bones) took over six months to heal. The fingers (broken in the past five years) took 6-12 months to heal. After the last one which was still swollen and discolored 12 months later, I spoke with a PA who deals with a lot of autoimmune patients and she believes that immune issues, especially coupled with arthritis (RA, PSA) can delay bone healing, especially when the inflammation takes so much longer to diminish.
I'm inclined to agree with her given my own experiences.
Yesterday (and the past three visits) when I've attempted to discuss this with the Orthopedic doc, I was met with a smirk and the suggestion that at my age I should be scanned for osteoporosis.

Does anyone know of any studies on PSA and bone health/healing?
In spite of my last injection (May 2😎, plus ibuprophen, ice, and elevation, the swelling has not gone down at all. And yesterday's x-rays showed no bone growth at the break.
What I want to do is take the boot off at night and use lidocaine to help reduce the swelling, which worked wonders on my last broken finger, but this was also met with a very firm, "Don't take off the boot except to shower."
And I'm supposed to be starting physical therapy a week from tomorrow because "your ankle is too stiff." Well of course it's too stiff, it's swollen up like a softball!
I'm so over this. Any information on studies that will back up my theories would be greatly appreciated!

  1. I am so sorry to hear that you broke your ankle. I hope that you get to feeling better soon.

    1. oh my gosh, that must be so frustrating. I am not sure about studies regarding this, do you think that you could get a rheumatologist to back up your feelings or experience on this? It is so difficult when a doctor is dismissive or does not hear and address your concerns. I don't imagine how you must start pyshio if the bone has not healed yet.
      We are here for you.
      Warmly, Clair ( Team Member)

      1. Equally things have been very busy on my end of the world and I am only getting back online now and managing life much better again. How is your new business going? Has your psoriatic arthritis been behaving?

        Are you excited for the holidays?

        Warmly,
        Clair ( Team Member)

      2. Hi!
        Business is going well - it's publishing a community magazine and the community is thrilled with it, which makes my job all the more fun!
        PsA has been okay. I had a stomach bug when my last dose was due and had to delay the injection for almost two weeks but aside from increased fatigue it wasn't too bad.
        I'm very excited for the holidays! My youngest son is coming for a visit and this is the first Christmas we've gotten to spend together since 2018. Can't wait!
        In addition, things are starting to come together with hurricane clean-up and repairs, which is making a big difference in my state of mind.

        How about you? Feeling good? Excited for the holidays?
        Hugs!
        Amy

    2. , oh my goodness, I actually hate that dismissive smirk that comes in response to us sharing our experiences/theories. It feels extremely belittling. I'm sorry that this orthopedic doctor wasn't receptive to your input. I was able to find lots of studies on RA and delayed wound healing, but not much on PsA (which isn't surprising as it sometimes feels like PsA is a bit neglected when it comes to research). I did find the following brief abstract which mentions poor wound healing as a potential complication of surgery, associated with PsA: https://journals.lww.com/jaaos/abstract/2012/01000/psoriatic_arthritis.4.aspx I'm hoping someone else may be able to find something useful for you. I did notice that our lovely Cynthia mentioned taking longer to heal from various physical traumas in the following article: https://psoriatic-arthritis.com/living/delay-everyday-tasks Hoping your ankle feels much better soon. It sounds awfully painful. Soft hugs! -Catherine, Community Moderator

      1. Hey Catherine!
        The PT session was better than I expected. She started me on some small muscle movements in my foot to build strength and said we'll work up to being weight-bearing. The exercises aren't painful, just slight difficult due to not using them for over a month. She wants to see me weekly.
        She did say that I likely still won't be able to drive a week from now, when I was supposed to be going to my class reunion and to visit my oldest friends. I'm a bit crushed about that and trying to figure out a way to make it work.
        I hope things are going well with you. How's the fatigue and pain? Have you managed to enjoy any yoga? 😁

      2. , oh I am relieved that the PT session was better than expected! Getting those smaller muscles moving again sounds like a good idea. Hopefully strengthening those muscles might take some of the strain off of your ankle whilst it heals too? It's good to hear that they aren't painful anyway. You've reminded me - I need to get back into a routine of doing strength exercises for my feet again. My plantar fasciitis has been playing up a bit again lately.

        Oh that is upsetting about the trip you had planned ๐Ÿ˜ข Is there anyone else going from anywhere near you? I hope you can find a way to go. It's so disheartening when things like this happen. Not only do we have to deal with the pain/inconvenience of the injury/symptom, but we also have to deal with its effect of getting in the way of things we want to be doing. Ugh! Sending all the positive vibes for finding a solution.

        I haven't enjoyed any more yoga (or done any either ๐Ÿ˜‰). Still feeling a bit rough with the fatigue but hoping to maybe do something tomorrow. Either the yoga or perhaps walk over to the beach (it's just at the end of my road). We'll see! Have you noticed any effect on your fatigue levels and PsA pain with the ankle injury? Hoping the weekend treats you kindly! -Catherine, Community Moderator

    3. Have you had a bone scan? Having PsA puts one at greater risk for osteopenia, so it's a short ride to osteoporosis. I fractured my sacrum in 2022, and subsequently was diagnosed with prednisone induced osteoporosis. I've since increased my bone mass, and an back to a state of osteopenia, hoping to have even better bone mass at my next scan in August.

      1. 1,000-1,200 mg dietary calcium a day, and calcium supplements when I am unable to meet that goal. My diet includes a lot of low fat and non fat dairy, and I take magnesium, K2, and get lots of D by spending time outdoors. I also do resistance training; lunges, stair steppers, squats with light weight, and other body weight resistance exercises.

      2. thank you!

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